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MaxMoto News: 17/09/03
(Updated
20/06/04 - Development Continues )
(Updated
10/10/06 - Aprilia 850 Mana auto confirmed for summer '07 )
Gilera 850 v-twin automatic bike everyone?
Gilera's parent company Piaggio have been rumoured
to be developing the biggest scooter to date by marrying together
their existing 850cc, 90 degree v-twin bike engine and a Suzuki
Burgman type CVT automatic gearbox.
However, to general surprise, what we've seen first
at the Milan motorcycle show is this engine with an "electronic
power-assisted transmission and an automatic clutch" in a rather
tasty prototype naked bike, the Gilera Ferro. An automatic bike
sounds a crazy thing to do in the rather conservative world of motorcycling,
but bear with us as it really makes quite a lot of sense.
One of this years must-have track accessories has
been thumb push button power-assisted gear changers (eg the Kliktronic
quickchanger system, made up the road from us), which gives ultra
fast and ultra reliable gear changes. Ultra fast means about 40ms,
which is less than 10% of the time we mere humans take to manually
change gear, so the engine spends more time driving the rear wheel,
saving up to half a second on the quarter mile time. Conventional
manual changes also seriously unsettle the suspension, but a quickchanger
is so fast that the effect on the suspension is much reduced. Ultra
reliable means no more dangerous false neutrals at critical moments.
A slipper clutch (which can be incorporated into certain types of
automatic clutches) would probably be needed to prevent rear wheel
lock on down shifts on this 850cc v-twin. By integrating these components
into the electronic engine management system, Gilera could include
control over numerous parameters such as engine braking. Add some
extra processing power and perhaps a gyroscopic sensor (for cornering
and excessive wheelie height) and you have an option for the bike
to make the gear changing decisions for maximum performance, or
even maximum fuel economy. Are you getting caught out by the rev
limiter at critical moments? This could be the answer. Gilera could
even include a MotoGP type push button launch control. They might
not be marketing the Gilera Ferro as a track tool, but if their
system is good enough to produce a real performance gain, the quickchangers
currently on the market show that sports riders could be converted.
From the other side of the spectrum, there's the
current twist-and-go owners who like the idea of a "proper"
bike but are rather put off by all that very odd left hand clutch,
left foot gear change stuff (let's face it, it IS rather arcane).
Put the Gilera Ferro gearbox in its (adjustable) automatic mode
or thumb through the gears in pseudo manual and ...voilà.
We take our bikes for a sporty spin on a Sunday
afternoon, we commute to the big cities on them, we take our partner
for leisurely continental tours on them (with blasts on the twisty
bits). But we don't (generally) have a sports bike, a big scooter
and tourer sitting in our garage. Is the Gilera Ferro multifunctional
gearbox the answer? Can this bike be all things to all men? That's
a unisex "men", as we think it could be just as popular
with women (the wife has been waiting for a bike just like this).
If only they could integrate the Öhlins Continuously
Controlled Electronic Suspension system and you'd have the perfect
do-everything bike .....but that's another story.
Getting back to that gearbox, Gilera has been rather
coy about exactly what technology they're using, and in his presentation,
Lucio Masut, director of R&D, mentioned a full-CVT automatic
mode. CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) provides, as the
name implies, an infinite number of ratios, often through belts
and cone shaped pulleys, to perfectly match the engine speed to
the throttle position, bike speed, etc. In theory, to get maximum
performance, you just have to hold the throttle all the way open
and the engine revs to the exact point of maximum power and stays
there while the CVT runs through its infinite ratios. No pauses
for manual gear changes, just continuous maximum power to the rear
wheel. In practice, problems with torque capacity and internal inefficiencies
mean CVT systems have so far been unable to match the performance
of manual gearboxes. It looks as if we'll have to wait to see exactly
what Gilera have up their sleeve for the Ferro.
Do you feel that manual gear changing is part of
the "essence" of motorcycle riding? High performance car
drivers used to say something similar about their steeds, but the
prevalence of semi-automatic and fully automatic sports cars show
that they've moved on, so why not motorcycle riders.
"Streetfighter" styling of the Ferro is
very attractive, neat and minimalist with under seat exhausts and
single sided swing arm. We'd like to see a bit more work on that
bikini fairing though.
Dry weight is around 189kg.
Power from Piaggio's standard 850cc 90° v-twin,
four valve per cylinder, dry sump engine is 86bhp @ 7,750rpm. Gilera
haven't released figures for their variant yet.
We really hope the technical obstacles are overcome,
but there's no indication of price or availability dates for the
Gilera Ferro, though we fear that it may have a gestation period
similar to the Gilera 600 supersport...
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Gilera
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Update 20/06/04: New
Piaggio boss Roberto Colaninno has turned around the fortunes of
the group and has taken Piaggio back into profit, bringing financial
stability to Gilera, who in turn, have been able to do more development
on the Ferro. They've gone for a full belt and variable pulley CVT
system with an automatic clutch (see diagram on the right). The
automatic electronic control has a sports setting using all the
rev range and a touring setting for more relaxed progress. There's
also a psuedo manual setting with changes made by a traditional
left foot gear selector rather than the expected thumb operation.
Those that have ridden the bike say that the engineers have done
a good job and the system is quite refined.
The styling of the current
development bike is different from the pictures above and has more
of a Cagiva parts bin flavour to it, but that's more to do with
convenience whilst the engineering issues are dealt with rather
than any final styling decisions. The casing for the CVT system
is quite substantial though, and is said to add 9kg to the weight.
Gilera have gone for a sort
of Ducati Monster and Suzuki Burgman hybrid that should do well
in those markets where such machines are popular, i.e. continental
urban areas, and where they'll be used mainly for commuting. It's
a shame that they haven't gone for the sport quickchanger route
which would probably be more relevant to the UK market, but we quite
understand Gilera's thinking. Lets hope the Ferro will introduce
a whole new group of people to motorcycling.
Power is said to be around
75bhp, and if the Ferro goes into production, it wont be until 2006.
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Update 10/10/06: Great News! The project is nearing completion and will appear badged as an Aprilia 850 Mana SportGear Auto in the Summer of next year, priced at around £5,250. We'll give you more details as we get them, which should be during the Milan Bike Show next month. |
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